Why Normal Labs Don't Always Mean You're Healthy | Dr. Eldred Taylor & Jackie Roberts

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0:58 Here's your host, Doctor Eldred Taylor. Okay, this is doctor Taylor and this is the Ageless Blueprint and we are so blessed to have someone here, Jackie Roberts. This is someone who I met and we just kind of gotten got a line. The reason why, I think is so important because she is actually an insider in the pharmaceutical industry and she actually understands how the pharmaceutical industry looks at women and how they may have not actually done everything for women, and they should. So this is Jackie Roberts. She spent thirty years in the pharmaceutical industry and now she helps high performing women get through difficult stages in their life. And I'm just so happy to have her here and I'm hoping that this is something that can enhance our audience and her.

1:54 So Ms Roberts, how are you doing. I'm doing great today, doctor Taylor. Thank you so much, tend I just want to make sure your viewers understand as well. I came from a medical background, so I spent years in laboratory medicine before I transition to pharmaceuticals, so I know the lab site is along with the other side of things as far as what's going on in the pharma in the market industry as well. I retired from that industry in November of twenty twenty five. So here I'm helping women every single day. Well, well good, I think the reason why we align because I'm, you know, trying to do the same thing. You know the lab part, you know the drug and medicine part, and then you also know the spiritual part, and so that's That's kind of what I've been trying to do is to is to have objective testing, to have you know this, understand how it affects the body, how you can change it, and then that also helps you to connect spiritually. So that is my whole thing, is a doctor trying to connect body, mind and spirit.

2:57 So that's enough about me. I really want to know how you got down that transitional road to where you are now, where you're actually helping other women. So let's hear your story. Well, I'd love to share that. I can tell you that I'm sixty three. I'm proud to say that because I know I looked good. But one of the reasons why I looked good is because I figured it out. A lot of women go through what we call the change or menopause, and they never figure out how to transition because they have fifteen minutes of time with their healthcare providers. Thank you, doctor Taylor for being one of those. Providers who actually spends the time to figure out the puzzle. But mine didn't.

3:38 So when I went through menopause, I had you know, surgical menopause that stopped my periods, but then I still had the symptoms related to it, and I had to really figure out the puzzle myself to be able to thrive again. And other than that, I was just blanking on words at work. I was having symptoms that were disrupting my life when I was talking to healthcare providers or professionals in my industry. And once I figured that puzzled out, puzzle out, I figured out that other women didn't know what either. So when I came out of the industry, I said, how can I help women? With my laboratory medicine background, my pharmaceutical background, I used to sell formal replacement therapy as well, along with understanding the market when it comes to managed care, because a lot of women don't understand when they're in front of that provider, and even if they have the right question, they may not get the answer they're looking for, or they may get lab results to say that they're normal and they go home and they say.

4:39 Well, I feel horrible. What am I supposed to do with that? You know? So I want to make sure that those women who are high performers, which all of us are, have somewhere in someone to be able to help them figure that out. So that's why I start a faithfully strong wellness. And basically what I do is I'm the menopause strategists for them woman to help her figure out what's going on with her biological physiological state at the moment and how she can change that to make it better, not necessarily starting on HRT right away, but to figure out where they are first. A lot of times they are highly stressed, as you well know, whish their core is all that was through the roof. And they don't even realize that that's what's happening to them.

5:21 So I found some success. Some women are really happy that they met me, and I want to make sure I help some more. Yeah, So you know, that's that's I think where we are alying because I started looking at this because I saw people on Facebook group and these women are so confused. They're saying, hey, they're asking other women to help interpret their lab results, and I'm like, oh my goodness. And I see one that you know, they'll say, hey, I tried my estrogen it was up here. Oh well, and these women are I was like, wow, you know, dude, I don't see people talking about that about gallbladders or you know, our heart. You don't see people you know, trying to give other people of medical advice. But you know that's why I, you know, I started this campaign called hormone Confusion. Is that everybody seems to be confused about hormones. And to be honest with you, I was confused about hormones when I finished my Obguayan residency. I talk about this a lot, but there's a lot of confusion.

6:18 And this is uh, you know, I talk about my labs are normal and I still feel awful. Where did I get that from? I got it from all the patients who came in and were telling me that. So it's a lot of the women that you see. So but anyway, can you kind of tell me because most of the time people have a personal story. It's like I was doing all of this and that was mine. I was doing the things for my wife, who's a high performer and again all women are high performance, I believe, and it wasn't working. And so that's when I started trying to figure out something else because I was seeing at twenty four to seven in my household that it was doing all the things that you're talking about. So, so what made you transition from hey, I'm selling this hrt that the pharmaceutical industry is telling me to promote and how you kind of said, Hey, maybe this is not exactly what I should be doing.

7:12 Yeah, Well, it's interesting to note that because there's been so much that's happened since I used to actually sell the drug that I did. And one of them is a study that came out that made women feel like they had to come off of their estrogen completely because of. A black box warning. And so by time I got to a point in my life where I could go on an estrogen, that estrogen no longer existed in the marketplace really in the form that it used to. And I can tell you that my symptoms that came on board were for me weight gain. I've always been very athletic, and I would work out like, no, tomorrow, do more working out, and I would. Gain weight in my middle.

7:54 And I didn't understand that it was the cortisol that was happening from my job and the cortisol for me being trying to work out more that was causing me to gain more weight. Why because I had less estrogen. So once I got with the functional medicine provider, I begin to understand that you have to make sure you're balanced first, and your provider can give you a blood test or even a saliva test, but you have to also understand that those ranges are looking for disease, You're not looking for your optimal performance. So the healthcare provider will look at those ranges like they did for me and said okay, where everything is okay? And I said, well, it's not okay, and I advocated for myself and I found a functional medicine provider who said, okay, these say one thing, but your symptoms say another. Your symptoms speak louder than your labs do, and that's where we have to be able to advocate for yourself like I did, and say this isn't right. I'm gaining weight like I shouldn't be. I'm bleeding all day long and for weeks or time, I'm bleeding heavier than normal.

9:05 Or either I'm having. Periods at fifty five when I didn't have one at fifty four. So all these things pop up for women and they don't understand it's the transition of their estrogen, their testosterone, their quartisol, their progesterone. There's other hormones involved as well as far as your follicle stimulating hormone is going down because you're going through the actual change, and that's what makes sure ovaries actually produced the egg. So for me, being as smart as I was, I was at a quandary. And once I figured out the puzzle by talking with the functional medicine provider and looking at the results with her, then I got on something that helped me.

9:45 I want to buy you identical hormone. I love it. I've been on it for years. I will not go off of it, and it keeps me functioning. But not only that, my diet had to change. I had to make sure that I wasn't putting things in my body that were causing some of the issues that I was having. For instance, I'm not really good with gluten, but my dad was a baker, so don't work out that means I know how to bake, and I know how to bake very well, but I only have it. Doing the holidays. In a minute I do, it affects my body, so I don't have it as much. Like my son was banana bread. I said, you got to make it. I got everything out for him to make it. I'm not so yeah, So I think we talked and I told you that, you know, I look at it a little bit differently, you know, for twenty years, and so this is what I'll tell you. I mean, when I did my Obguan residency, we never really looked at blood because the blood was so confusing because one of the things is is that pre mental pozsal women could have irregular bleeding, they could have endemy trucks and you will look at their blood work and it would say it's normal, right, and you know, it's like, okay, that can't be right, okay, And then you you know, then I started seeing people who were post metal pusal they had endometrial cancer and their blood estrogen would be normal, and I'm like, that doesn't make sense, okay. So then I had a patient came in and asked me if

11:16 I knew about saliva testing, and I said no, and I started looking at it and for and this is the thing that changed me, is that I finally found a lab that helped me match the symptoms. Because this is my thought, is that symptoms come after you've had a long line, you've had a lot of dysfunction. I mean, things have gone wrong for a while. By the time the symptom shows up. So I started saying, how can I get there before the symptom gets there? Because now this is what I'll tell you. When I was doing my residency, we stopped estrogen if they had a positive mammogram.

11:57 Yeah, that doesn't make exactly came out. Well, Well, this is what I'm saying is that the reason why there was a problem is because we didn't understand the balance between estrogen and progesterone. That's my whole thing. Estrogen causes growth, progesterone slows down the growth and increases development. So you're right, the stress causes you not to ovulate. When you don't ovulate, you don't make progesterone. When you don't make progesterone, you don't you don't have anything controlling the growth of the lining of your uterus. And also, ovulation is the menstrual timekeeper, so if you don't ovulate, your body doesn't know when to bleed, how long to bleed, all of that stuff. So what I found in saliva testing is that you can look at that balance of estrogen and progesterone, and if you keep that in balance, you can get you can prevent the symptoms from showing up because because you're helping them to maintain that balance the whole way. And the only reason why I like I mean, one of the reason why I like saliva testing is that it shows the tissue level and you're you're you're a laboratory person. Okay, so you're a laboratory person.

13:14 But I've just noticed that the saliva testing matches the symptoms. And sometimes when the patient can see it, they're like, oh wow, this is real, you know. And then if you do a treatment and you see that the balance is there before they ever get a symptom because and I don't want to I don't want to believe it because I want to hear your story. But what I find is is that once if you if they don't see it, and they're not sure of what's happening, right, and we go by symptoms, what happens is you give somebody something, you get them to come back in three months, you say, well that didn't work. Then you try something else, and then you come back and say that didn't work. So now you're nine months down the road and you're still trying to adjust symptoms. I've found that if we can have some good data to start with, we can decrease some of that trial and error. So again that's just been my experience, and I know there are a lot of people who do a lot of things with blood and all of that stuff, and if they're having success, that's fine, but sometimes that doesn't always provide answers. Because that's what I see on Facebook, is that people are trying to get information from other people. So anyway you can tell me what you think.

14:29 About that, I see the same thing you see in those groups because I follow some of those groups as well. And it's interesting how many times women will ask, you know, what do you think about this blood result to someone who has no background on looking at that, and I will always say, go back to your healthcare provider. If you don't get the answers you're looking for, find a functional medicine provider who can and I can tell you when it comes to blood work, that is what most doctors are actually ordering. You'll order a panel of blood work for you. Well, that blood work does not always give what saliva testing will provide. And also you have to remember as a patient that managed care really.

15:09 Decides a lot about how much a health care provider feels they can do. Okay, it doesn't mean they can't do it. Feels they can do. You, doctor Taylor, are doing it the right way, and you're a provider. So a provider can give what you're looking for if that provider walks outside of that box of everyday medicine. I remember providing the book to my healthcare provider and saying, can you look at this because it was outside the box. I don't think she ever did. I'm not sure if she did or not, but I do know that when I couldn't get what I was looking for from that provider, I went to another one. And I've been with the one I've been with now gosh, probably fifteen and she is made sure I've been adjusted appropriately. So I think that's what the lay every day patient needs to understand, is that you may not get what you're looking.

15:56 For at that provider. If you walk out the door with normal labs and they say, well, here's an anti depressenter, here's the sleeping pill so you can sleep, you need to find another provider. Period. So this is is kind of jokingly, but I used to say, this is gynecology made simple. And again I'm not bashing doctors. This is what I was taught. And if I never looked outside that box, I would still be doing it. Okay. So I'm not bashing doctors. They're doing what they were taught. I was doing what I was taught. And so you know that that is, you know, definitely not what I'm saying. But I did get out of that box and I start because medicine insurance makes you have blinders on. This is the only way that you do it. And so I knew what I was about to say. I used to say gynecology made simple is that is that this is what when I look back and to see what was I doing. If any patient came in, if they were forty or less, it doesn't matter what their problems was, irregular bleeding, oubroads, doesn't matter.

17:00 You gave them birth control pills. So that's the only thing that we had, Okay, So if you were over forty five or fifty, you would give them uh primroum if they didn't have a uterus, and you give them Primira and Preva if they did simple Okay. If none of that worked, then the next thing is surgery, cut something out, ovary ablation or whatever. And I would say yeah, and so then, but then I would also say, hey, look, then you would get an antidepressant so you wouldn't feel so bad about how bad you feel, you know. But but to be honest with you, that was what we That's what what that's what we did, birth control pills.

17:43 And so I'm like, that's very simple. Instead of looking at what became non functional. This woman was functional for all her life. Now something has changed. Okay, and it's not because she had a decrease in antidepressant medicine. Something changed. What changed her hermone levels, change, her stress level change. As you get older, you have more stressors. Okay, You've got kids, you've got husbands, you've got elderly parents, and so all of that is affecting these women. And I like saliveattest and especially about cortisol, so I can show them this is what life has done to you. It has worn you down. You can't you can't respond like you used to. You. You know, I used to deliver babies.

18:27 I get up at two or three o'clock in the morning and do a delivery. It was exhilarating. When I got into my forties, it was exhausting. I said, I can't keep doing this so uh, you know, everybody, men and women have this midlife crisis, I believe so. Uh. Anyway, so let's let's talk about how you join. Why you called your program faithfully yours? Yeah, faithfully, that's a great question I have. I have to tell you is that what I found I've been in the church all my life, and what I did find is that a lot of women felt like it was a time in their life that they were feeling deserted. And I can say it's because within the church itself, no one really talks about a woman and the change. Okay, think about the issue of blood that the woman had who touched you know, Jesus' garment.

19:19 That's about the only time you hear about it in the Bible. And so women were just silent and suffering alone, and they were feeling like, you know, during this time, that God deserted them and he hasn't. You know. Faithfully strong means that you still can have the faith to move through this transition and be the strong woman you always have been. And yes, you are fearfully and wonderfully made. You're just going into a different part of your life at this time. And so I wanted women to truly understand that their body was still a temple and they still had the ability to be able to communicate with it, but it was communicating to them differently, and to understand that they could still.

20:02 Have the faith to keep moving through this time period, and to actually bring it up in churches. I mean now, I happen to belong to a very huge church, one of those ones that has fifteen locations, and I have found that even the men want something because they want to understand why they're woman's going through this so that they can support them. So I've been able to put together resources with scriptures so that the man also can help during this time through a couple's guide. And that's important because women otherwise will just feel like they're all alone in this. I asked my husband not too long ago, you know what men of pause is? He didn't. He lives with me. Okay, yeah, most women.

20:47 Yeah, And that's why I say everybody is confused, everybody. And again I did a lecture called Great Divorce. A lot of divorces happened during this time because of this miscommunication men. I think their men think they've been deserted because their wife has chained and they feel neglected, They feel like what happened to my wife. And I used to I used to get Christmas cards from guys who say, thank you for giving me my wife back, okay. And so that's what I'm talking about. I mean, and again, why am I doing this because that's what I've experienced in my forty years of marriage. I've gone through all of that, you know, all of that stuff. And you know, you talk about being in church. My dad was a Baptist minister, so I grew up in church. And I actually did an lecture because I was Obi Juyanne about the woman with the issue of blood. And what Jesus said to her is that your faith has healed you, right, okay?

21:43 And so it wasn't so he was saying, it's not necessarily me, it's your faith in me. And so so I used to say, she had to have the knowledge that this was a person who could help. And that's why I say, this is how I try to make it where it is. It's practical. You had to find someone that you had faith in, you know, like I said, I know it was Jesus is that but you found a functional medicine doctor that you had faith in and your faith helped to heal you. Okay. So that's how I used to say that she had to have the knowledge that, oh, this person can help me, and then she fought through and said I have faith that faith healed me. And I have to say that's the same way with anybody. People have to have faith in me that I know what the heck I'm talking about. You you had to have faith in me to say, Okay, I'll go on his podcast because I have faith that this may help somebody. So that's that's how I look at it. I try my best to say, how can scripture and spirit live in me and not just be something far off that I want to do so anyway, that's that's my my thought process. And the other thing I think when you can add science to prove that the things in the Bible are true, and that's and that's that's what's exciting for me is that a lot of these spiritual doctrines can now be tested and we're

23:14 finding that. And the reason why I call this Ace's blueprint is that the blueprint of how we're supposed to live has been written for the ages, you know. So that's why I say there's a lot of just true that just makes total sense, and now we're able to say, oh yeah, I don't know how these people knew this, but this is how we're supposed to live. So anyway, I think it's time for a break. We usually take a break here and then we'll come back and we'll we'll talk a little bit more. Okay, okay, great, yes, all right, great, we. Are going to a quick break, So stay with us as we explore the Ageless Blueprint right here on W four HC Radio and Talk for TV, an ancient secret with a modern twist for better health and vitality. Doctor Taylor will be right back. Taking care of your health shouldn't mean taking a handful of pills every day. At Tailor MD Formulations, they create doctor developed supplements that combine them best natural ingredients so you get the results you need with fewer pills. Tailor MD Formulations is backed by science, designed for real life, with real results, less pills, better health, doctor approved. Shop now at tailormdformulations dot com and discover smarter supplements for smarter health. That's Tailor MD formulations dot com.

24:44 We are back for more of Ageless Blueprint once again. Let's join doctor Taylor for more insights and research on the ancient secret to better health and a better life in modern times. Here's your host, doctor Eldred Taylor. All Right, we're back and we're here with Jackie Roberts. She is a thirty year veteran of the pharmaceutical industry. She's very knowledgeable about laboratory medicine. And we've been talking about what when laps say normal, but God says listen, navigating medical gas lighting with discernment. So let's talk about that. That's the title. Let's talk about what you mean by God says listen, and how do we navigate gas lighting with discernment? But miss Robs, I want to say one thing before that. You know, I used to say that there was a statement that I said, women have an innate sense of spirituality and they can attune to the wisdom within themselves and the larger hole that has been systematically ignored by medicine. And so I really believe in women's intuition, and I think that's what you're talking about discernment.

25:53 And I do think that is a gift from God to women. They have intuition and insight that quite frankly, men just don't have So why don't you talk about that? Well, we do. We can feel things, I think more than men can. And in the case of medical gas lighting, it's really the sense of this isn't right. There's something wrong when someone tells me I'm okay, and I don't feel okay. So the discernment within. A woman as she prays and as she guides herself through this process of the transition of perimenopause and memohause, tells her to do something different or either she's going to continue to suffer.

26:36 So, like you said, during that time myself, I had two young. Men that I was raising. They were boys six years apart. I had this career that was, you know, going through the roof. I was getting promotions consistently. I had wonderful still have my wonderful husband. After thirty forty years, we made it through, and at that time I felt like, this isn't something's not driving here. I shouldn't be bleeding through all of my protection within five minutes. You know, I shouldn't have these symptoms of this joint pain that I've never had before. I shouldn't have the shoulder that doesn't want to move, And why are my ears ringing? So they were all different types of symptoms, and there are probably over forty fifty symptoms you've heard of, doctor Taylor, that come into your office that women have, and those symptoms are what tell you that something is not going right.

27:26 That discernment there lets you know I've got to do something, And so the medical gaslighting after a while makes you start saying, I cannot listen to this provider anymore. Tell me that I'm okay, and take an antidepressant. That makes me feel worse a lot of the times, because if you are on an antidepressant doesn't necessarily mean it's going to work correctly for you if you don't need it, because there are brain pathways that used to actually talk about this to health care providers as well. There are brain pathways it is meant to work on. But if those brain pathways are already fixed in their fine, it's. Not going to really do much. So then you end up having another drug in your body, like what I feel crappier on this than what I did.

28:06 Okay, then you get a sleeping pill. So these all help you understand is you're going through this process that what I'm being told about what's wrong with me with just gas. Lighting is not true. And so that's where you have to take that discernment that you know and go somewhere else. And what I think the difficult part for women is that they don't know where to go. And that's why they go to the Facebook groups and they say, well who do I go to? And they hear about the different online industries that are in place that will provide them insight. But a lot of times when they go to those places, they're hit with something that's not covered by managed care. So then if you're a woman who can't afford it, you're suffering more.

28:50 So. Yeah, and you know I always say don't let the insurance companies kill you. Is that you know, sometimes you just have to you have to take a leap of faith. And you say, and that's what I think, that's what the issue of blood is all about. You have to take a leap of faith, do something you normally would not do, like maybe take a little money out of your pocket because you know what that information you talk about your shoulder, hear forty something symptoms and a lot of times in medicine we try to give forty different drugs for forty. Right. But everything, and I think that I may have convinced you of this. Everything. The top of the food change is chang is stress. Yes, and stress. We wrote a book called the Stress Connection. Stress connect is connected to every symptom that you're talking about. The joint pains. You don't have enough cortisol. That's a natural anti inflammatory, so you don't have that. Stress is screwing up your ovulation, is screwing up your It is disrupting your digestion, is disrupting your cardiovascular system. And you can measure that through heart rate variability. And that's why I'm saying you can measure stress. I say it's hard to manage what you cannot measure. So I really decided that I was going to be a stress expert because they said seventy five to ninety percent of all visits to healthcare practitioners are for stress related complaints of disorders. That was a study I read back in two thousand and three, and I said, Okay,

30:22 if I understand stress, I can have seventy five to ninety percent of my patience. And I've found that to be true. And so I've been trying to say this message for a long time, and then I said, here's another way to do it. Why don't I have people who are already trying to do this, who are in Facebook groups and whatever, Why don't I try and teach them some of this they learn it because I know things spread faster woman to woman than it does doctor to woman. So that's when I saw you. I'm like, Okay, you're already trying to do this. I can give you an extra measurement step and you know, and that may help some of your people. So that has been my new kind of direction. Let me find people already have an audience, let me teach them another little measurement, a measurement tool in their toolbox, and it may just be able to help some of those people that they previously had not been able to help. And another thing that I always say is I tell patients, don't ever do anything that you don't feel comfortable about, especially with women.

31:26 And I said, if you don't feel comfortable, I don't want you to do it. Either I need to explain it more or you just need to not do it because it doesn't feel right. So I really do honor women's intuition because I've learned that the hard way with my wife, with her telling me things that she feels and I didn't understand it, and now I understand that feelings are important. So yeah, So anyway, so why don't you tell people how they can get in touch with you and you know how you can help them? And then I think that I saw your message that you do want to talk about how you might be able to add this, So yeah, to talk about people, why don't you talk about how people can get in touch with you and how you see that this might help people, because look, I can't see everybody, So if I can help you help someone in your realm to me, that spreads my message a lot, a lot faster. I don't know what you think about that. Well.

32:29 I've always said that you're usually the best at something that you know very well, and so that was me I do. I can say I went up to the level of director within the pharmaceutical industry, and that meant that I was one of those women who was handling that stress every single day. My gut was affected by it, my whole body was affected by it. Either I was not eating in order to make it to the planes. That I got on to get to the next part of to So that's why people always she stand. I'm like, well, I don't need to junk an airport, I eat a bar, so that means I don't probably get enough calories during today. So but what I really help women do is understand through their their faith, their nutrition by their fitness. First, let's look at that what's going on there, and then also let's look at what's going on with you inside.

33:20 If you're not with the correct functional provider, how can we get the testing to you so you can understand what's going on with your actual biome you're and you're not on your biome, but your biological state to. Be able to get better. So people can find me at faithfully Strong Wellness dot com. And as I think about that term together, faithfully strong Wellness, it's really meant for you to understand that when you come in there, like doctor Taylor said, to have the faith that somebody can help you get strong again and you can be well again. And what I really focus on is being the menopause strategists that you don't have. Most women have fifteen minutes of time with their health care provider, and after those fifteen minutes, there's a knock on the door by the medical assistance, says doctor Taylor, your next one is ready to go. So they spend their whole year waiting for that one visit. I spend a lot of time with my clients. I want to make sure that I understand where they are first by giving them an assessment, and then understand also their feelings about it, understanding what are they discerning, what if they not what if they said that no one's listened to them about I think about.

34:34 How many times I share what was going on about me. I saw seven different specialists. I mean, my goodness, if there was a specialist I didn't see this see it was probably a cardiovascular one who I recently saw. But everything was fine for me. But I can tell you that you go from one specialist to the next because that healthcare provider says, oh well you've got that ache and your back. Go to an orthopedic, Oh well you've got this issue going on with your nerves, to your neurologists. So you end up going to all these specialists and then you still don't get your symptoms really figured out. You just you got a lot of copays that you paid. So it's really strong wellness helps what I help women as their strategists so that they're not running around trying to get supplements or retail information or social media information that's leading them in the wrong direction. I strategize as to where you are, where you want to be physically again, and helping you realize where you would not be ever again, and also helping them understand about some of the things they've heard in the media, for instance, the study on estrogens where women are now afraid of taking estrogens because of what the Black Box Morning was and they're like, oh, well, if I take an estragen, that's gonna mess me up and I cannot have too much estragen. I'm like, you don't have a lot of estrogen right now because you're going to menopause. And if something was really going to bother you when it came to estrogen, you made more estrogen over your lifetime than what you could possibly be

36:07 affected by with a little bit that the healthcare provider is going to give you. So I help them understand that hormone replacement therapy should not be called that because there's no way you can replace all of those hormones. Those wonderful hormones that you made. But there is a way that we can get you balanced by understanding through testing like you do the cortisol testing foots Aliva. Thank you doctor Taylor for. Doing that, and so understanding through the other testing what's going on plus your symptoms, and then getting you back on a nutritional track, a sleep track, understanding that yes, you have to get up, eat and eat first thing in the morning, and you can't starve yourself, and you've got to get some sunlight on your body to change your circadian rhythm that's all messed up, so that that end they're thriving instead of just feeling like they've got to get up and just survive.

36:57 To get through the day. Yeah, you know, I talk about how your body is always in a two way communication. Your body is trying to give you signals, and you give your body signals about what's going on on the environment because your inside doesn't know what's going on outside. It just goes by what you hear, what you taste, what you see, and what you and what you think. And so that's what I talk about, is that we have to give our body better signals the sunlight and I'm actually going to start a course about how to communicate two way communication. This is what your body is telling you, and this is what you are telling your body. And you know, another thing I want to say. You know, we call it faith. You know you've been in the church. We used to say take your burdens to the Lord and leave them there. And then I look at things like letting go by beil Ruck, she's saying the same. Letting go means let go, don't worry about things. That's that's what you know, is in Philippians, you know, be anxious for nothing. And people are making multi million dollars all from saying what we've been saying the whole time, you know. Yeah, and so that's what I'm talking about. That is telling your your your body that things are going to be okay and so it can settle down. And so I used to I was like, wow, you know, it's all these religions and things like this, you know, but all of them talk about letting go, don't worry about things.

38:25 There's some higher power that's that is working for you. And this is what I'm saying. You know, I try to uh, I try to say spiritual because the longevity uh information talks about spirituality. It doesn't necessarily talk about Christianity of you know, Islam or whatever. It just says, you know, so it's you have to be connected to something because this life is tough if you don't, if you don't tell yourself that things are going to be okay. And I think that's that what has helped humanity to survive. You know, it's not just us in America's helped humanity because we've seen that among all cultures is that they you know, they believe that something is greater than them, that is that can guide them. And so so anyway, so I think that that this faith that you're talking about that we grew up with is starting to become evident that yeah, maybe that is a blueprint for life, right, you know.

39:32 So it's a faith of what you can't see yet. And that's that's the biggest worry for women is that they can't see the end of this misery that they're going through with this point, and so they get up and they do the same things they always did and they don't get anything different from that. And I help them understand, yes, God is still with you, and yes to have the faith to understand you'll get to the other side. But there's some changes you've got because the way you're communicating back. To your body right now, it's not liking that something different. And then you know, that's what I try to say. Hey, we try to uncover the unseen. So that's what the saliva test is. Like, Oh I am out of balance.

40:17 Oh yeah, that's why I can't wake up in the morning because my corna's all curved. I don't have that spite they're supposed to wake me up. So I dragged through the day until noon, and then at night when I'm dead dog tired, I can't sleep. That's all circadian rhythm disruption, and I can. And that's what you're saying, thank you for the saliva testing because I showed you. I think I showed you in a pre interview. I was like, look, this is what I see every day. All of these disrupted courts are curved. So that's what I want to try and help you do, is Hey, I can help you learn how to measure the stress and it will help you to help the patient to manage or your client to manage it. So, hey, rebel, I always I like to leave time for questions I will tell you that I kind of took the month of June off, and I think I told you because I did what I'm telling you not to do. You know, for a year and a half, I've been trying to put this together and podcasts and stuff, and I said, I gotta wait, I gotta take a break, and I gotta refocus and figure out what we're going to do from now on. And so anyway, so we have let's see if we have any questions.

41:24 Yes, we have a question about how again can people reach miss Jackie. Oh fantastic Faithfully Strong Wellness dot com. Faithfully Strong Wellness dot com. That's how you can reach me. You'll see me on the website and you'll be able to go through and be able to understand what I can provide you at that time. A lot of times I work with a lot of women who are high performers in that I think is every woman because she's dealing with everything every single day to help them get through the next phase of this transition. It can be on. But you can find me a faithfully Strong Wellness dot com. Yeah, and you talk about high performance. How many women are single parent mothers, how many women their husbands may be businessmen who are gone Monday through Friday and they're raising four or five kids at home, you know, by themselves.

42:20 So yeah, almost all. I'll say all women are our high performance. And look, I also would love for you to subscribe to my YouTube channel, subscribe to my school group because in the podcast, because we're going to have more exciting guests like this on and I'll have the information about how to contact her, and then I think after this are sometimes Miss Robinson. I we're going to talk about how we can incorporate some of my information with her so that if you're connected to her, you can have access to some of this information through her. And I'll help coach her while she coaches you. So you know, they say every good coach needs a coach, So so if that's okay, that's what we'll do. We have any other questions, yes.

43:11 We have a question on doctor Taylor. Where do people get the saliva test? How do they do this? Okay, that's what we're going to tell Miss Ecu. But look, hey, go to the websites that are scrolling across here, or you leave a comment or whatever, and I'll tell you how you can get that done. All right. Any other questions, at. What age should people consider doing the saliva test? Okay, I'll answer that anytime you feel like you're out of balance in this hard modal. Anytime, you know, I just had a patient who was thirteen. Because I'm telling I'm telling women, you need to be telling your daughters this so that they are they are prepared for perimenopause. Menopause.

43:57 That's the problem women. Others and grandmothers never talked to their daughters about it because they didn't understand it because they're you know, they would never talk. So that's my ultimate goal is to teach adults so that they can teach their daughters and miss robs. You know, in medicine, to see one, do one, teach one, yes, and so you can explain what that is. But you know that's how it was when you see something, well, you can explain that. And this is what I want women to do. I want you to see the pattern. I want you to do the changes, and then I want you to teach someone else. So what do you think about that strategy?

44:38 Absolutely, because if you think about it, most women who start going through the change, their parents are elderly or either they're gone. In my case, my mom was gone, so she wasn't here to be able to share it with me. My mom was a RN and she and I did speak a lot about estraten replacement there because she happened to be on it because she had surgical men a pause, and that opportunity helped me understand more about what she was going through. But at that time, she never spoke to me about it. I just learned because of what I was doing, because I happened to be selling in the marketplace. Even though I knew so much, I still didn't know enough to be able to understand what was going on with me because my symptoms were different.

45:19 So that's where it's. Important for me to teach others to learn from doctor Taylor what he knows to be able to bring a wealth of information to women who are totally lost right now on what to do. Faithfully strong wellness makes sure that you understand and know what to do, how to do it, and what to expect as far as the changes that you'll see and how soon you'll see them. A lot of times I see women start having changes within a week of talking to me, because just changing a few things in what you're doing every single day can make a difference. And let me tell you this, I find that fifty percent of my job is to help patients to understand what's going on with them. Just the understanding calms down the stress and a lot of times they say, I'm feeling better and I haven't even done anything yet, because now I know that I don't have some weird disease that none of these specialists can figure out. I had one lady thought she had a brain to me because she couldn't sleep. It was because her quarter's all was too high and her progesterone was too low, so that I talk about the cost of hermone confusion. It's a lot of doctors, a lot of time, a lot of copays, all of that stuff. So anyway, it's time to go.

46:31 I know, please comment, contact miss Roberts, contact me. Just do whatever you can to get the information that you need so you can be discerning and take time to listen to what your body is telling you. That's what I think this is all about. Do you have a partying thought. Miss Roberts, I would say my partying thought is to let women understand and know that it's it's not over Okay, don't feel like you have no hope whatsoever. You do have hope. You can have the faith again to move forward and you can get through this change. Do understand, like doctor Taylor said, it's just a matter of speaking with someone to understand where you are, where you want to be, and how you can get there. Both he and I can help you. You see what's going on at the bottom with him, and I can tell you he has been amazing since I've met him.

47:28 And of course you can do fatally strong wellness dot com. Yeah, but again, I'm trying to help you teach other people. So again you can contact me, but please just subscribe and so we can continue to have this conversation. All right, this Robbers, thank you so much. If you can hold on after the partying whatever, we can talk real quickly. All right, all right, see you guys, see you next week. Thank you. Thanks for joining doctor Taylor today. If you missed any part of this show, just check out the podcast wherever you listen to. Podcasts Angels Blueprint is every Wednesday at nine am Eastern Time on W four EC Radio at w FOURC dot com. Together, we discovered ancient secrets to better health through science and spirituality, made for modern times.

48:22 Until then, feel free to check out Angeless Blueprint podcast dot com and Taylor mvformulations dot com for more information